2008: About 300 people turn out in Lake Forest to denounce gay marriage measure’s passage / OC Register

Pastor Rick Warren is such a loving and caring man, and he teaches his church members in particular to do nothing out of hate. When he has had conferences on the prevention of HIV in Africa, he actually has presenters who are gay men, so that the people at the conference understand all the implications.

I would say that Pastor Warren, with whom I have met along with Robert Millet and Greg Johnson in his office, does not hate or disparage gays and lesbians. He would say that God loves them too, and wants to have a close relationship with them, which would require them to have faith in Jesus Christ. In reality he is doing gays, a favor in supporting proposition 8. What preoccupies them is a selfish, self-centered, self-desctructive, health-destructive lifestyle, and their relationships being recognized as a marriage would, rather than encouraging them to rejoin society as fully-contributing members, would encourage them in remaining in thier self-destructive actions, and lure or encourage more men to give up the hardships and rewards of heterosexual family life for self-centeredness.

See the original on the Orange County Register website at this link.

Thanks much,

Steve St.Clair

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Prop. 8 protests continue in O.C.
About 300 people turn out in Lake Forest to denounce gay marriage measure’s passage.
By CINDY CARCAMO and ROSALBA RUIZ
The Orange County Register

Sunday, November 9, 2008

LAKE FOREST – About 300 people gathered in front of Saddleback Church protesting the recently-passed gay marriage ban this morning.

Holding signs reading “Shame on Rick Warren” and “Preach Love not Discrimination,” the crowd chanted “Equal rights now.”

Some said the protest was akin to the civil rights movement, bringing out both heterosexual and homosexual people. Others said that it wasn’t too late to voice their opinion and make a change.

California voters Tuesday approved Proposition 8, which amends the state constitution to define marriage as between a man and a woman. The vote was more pronounced in Orange County, where more than 57 percent of the voters supported the proposition.

Supporters of gay marriage have already filed lawsuits seeking to overturn the proposition as unconstitutional. The California Supreme Court struck down an early ban on gay marriage in May.

Since Prop. 8 passed last week, massive crowds have rallied against it in Los Angeles and San Francisco. In Orange County, hundreds protested without incident in Laguna Beach and Huntington Beach yesterday. Protests were planned in Lake Forest, Laguna Niguel and Rancho Santa Margarita today.

Orange County Sheriff’s Department officials estimate that about 20 protestors have gathered so far in Laguna Niguel.

By 11 a.m. at Saddleback Church, No on Prop. 8 protestors waved as the congregation left the church’s parking lot. On the other side of the road, it seemed that only two people were rallying in favor of Prop. 8.

Blake Anderson, 60, of Santa Ana, said he heard about this morning’s protest through e-mails and text messages.

“Whatever happened to the separation of church and state? They contributed to the Yes on 8 campaigns. They’ve got it wrong,” he said.

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